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Chapter Seventy Five : Review Responses


It didn't take nearly as long to complete this chapter this go round, now did it? I hope everyone is having a nice summer, even if it is unbearably hot lately.

The Inuyasha Fanguild is currently taking in nominations. Journey has been nominated for Best Characterization: Kagome and Best Serial by doggieealover. It's still an honor to be recognized by my readers this way after all this time. I wish everyone this quarter best of luck.

Has anyone else noticed that Anime Spiral has disappeared all together besides me? I haven't posted anything new, including new Journey chapters, there since the big rule change against adult themes, but it would seem that doesn't matter anymore. The site states that the domain name is up for grabs. Either they've moved and failed to inform us, or they've simply closed shop. I'm not entirely sad to see it go, actually, considering the juvenile feel of the place. It'd just be nice to have a bit of warning perhaps.

Now for the individual responses:


Media Miner:

knittingknots: I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter.

Fire Blade: Glad you liked the chapter and hope you'll keep reading.

Doggieearlover: Sango must indeed find Miroku to let him have a piece of her mind. I think as her romance with Miroku has bloomed slowly, she's become afraid. She knew how to anticipate the monk and knew what to expect. Miroku's behavior changes upset her balance and throw her off and it unsettles her. She'll find them to be a good thing down the road, but for now she's still uncertain and afraid. Just because he's starting to change doesn't mean he'll keep doing it and I think she's expecting the rug to be pulled from underneath her and have the monk become the lecher again that she's accustomed to. I would say that Miroku is certainly having a hard time between a claustrophobic and panicking spy and a very hungry demon. You'll have to wait and see!

GrayPheonix: Glad you enjoyed the story.

Crystal Singer: I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter.

Shi Shi: You have to format your text by spacing the paragraphs manually. Hit return twice after each one. I do hope you'll continue to read.



Anon: I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter and that you'll keep reading.

Lenore: I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter and seeing Sango grow. It'll be a long road for her, but she'll totally come around eventually.

Links: Media Miner  AFF

Until next time,

Far Away Eyes

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Jaken was certainly busy in this chapter!

I noticed that AnimeSpiral seemed to be gone for good not all that long ago. Before it just came up "page not found" when they were down or out of money. I went to InuYashaWorld and noticed they removed their link to it, so I guess it really is gone. I suspect that's one reason so many fics are cropping up on the other sites all of the sudden where someone posts a bunch of them in a row, and I think a couple of my readers from over there have found me at MediaMiner. I need to go through my stuff and remove the links I have to it since it looks like this time it won't be back.

And good luck this quarter!

Edited at 2008-07-14 12:51 am (UTC)

He certainly was a busy fellow indeed. I wonder what Sesshomaru would think of his busy servant.

I'll have to do the same at a certain point. Anime Spiral has been rather unreliable in its existence and the quality of fiction and reviews were always subpar. I'm not that sad to see it go. I'm surprised it didn't do this a long time ago, actually. Ah well, what can you do except move on? There are far better sites elsewhere.

And good luck to you in the quarter, too!

Sesshomaru must have known he was good for something since he's kept him with him all of this time. Of course if he was pleased, he'd never tell him.

I mainly posted there because it was the first fanfiction site I discovered (because of the link from InuyashaWorld) and figured there were at least a few people there who deserved something not written by a 13 year old to read. It was hit or miss on the reviews, but I got more there than some of the other sites I'm on (like ED and AFF). There are definitely better sites and is probably my favorite - though I wonder why I still haven't recieved an update notice for Journey. If it weren't for your journal, I wouldn't have known. The one for ED just came through, though.

Thanks! I hope we both do well this time.

Sometimes I think Sesshomaru keeps him around for grief relief. He's there to punch in the head when he's feeling a bit peeved. The problem is that Jaken's usually one of the reasons he IS peeved. I'd say that Sesshomaru might feel a bit relieved that Jaken's fixating on someone else for a change. Besides, Jaken's heart will be broken when the gang return and he sees just how close Sesshomaru and Rin have become.

Hmmm. I can't say why's notice hasn't gone out. That's pretty odd.

I posted at AnimeSpiral for exposure mostly. It was a frustrating place and a difficult site, but it was worth the couple literate people who might swing through and leave a decent review. Ah well. What can you do.

I've just finished chapter 75. ^________^

Jeez, no wonder I've been missing chapters lately; if you hadn't posted the review corner I never would've known you'd updated - The alert hasn't shown up in my emails yet. <=( Now that's odd . . . I do have the option turned on.

In any case, I'm thrilled with this installment, really I am. This is clearly a big thing that's happening here, and will affect our heroes out on the field just as it will those on home turf. Exciting!

I've noticed that's alerts must be down because I didn't get any notifications of any reviews, either.

I'd say the world will only change from what both Jaken and the Inugang are doing in this world. It's probably some of the fastest changes in the world, too.

So it wasn't just me? D=> Jeez, I hope everybody else isn't missing out.

XD Well, compared to centuries old religious wars . . . yeah, I think you could call this pretty fast. In comparison, at least. XD

I sorta get the impression that they'll all be feeling like they've aged a couple centuries by the time this is all over. XD

Considering the review count, I wonder how many actually know. Sigh, oh well.

And yes, the world's changes here are some of the most rapid, but then when the things that are being done actually get done, it only makes sense. And a lot of the changes are rather overdue if you ask me.

Depends which group you're talking about. Jaken and the kings or Inuyasha and the gang? I have a funny feeling they'll feel as old as Belgarath before long. Ah well. . .it'll be worth it in the end for them.

Hmmm . . . Well I'm sure the long-term followers are bound to check in now and again, in any case. I know the pace is moderately slow at the moment following the encounter with Nahaz, but there's every chance of missing out on something significant if you're not paying attention.

I'm sure now that the "quest/s" have actively been embarked upon the changes are comparitavely rapid, but this has been a long time in the making, has it not?

Inuyasha and co, I was referring to. ^_^ Jaken, well . . . I get the feeling he's going to flourish here.

So far most of the longterm followers who aren't already on the ol' f-list here are the type that give the two worded "update soon" garden variety reviews. I'm used to them. And yes, I try to make each detail matter. Otherwise an epic like this can spiral outta control and make no sense.

I'd say it's been in the making since Torak first struck Aldur and took the Orb, at least as far as this world is concerned. You have NO idea how long this has been really going on just yet. It's been a very very very long time.

Oh my yes. Inuyasha and company will be exhausted, but they'll be well rewarded for the trouble.

Jaken on the other hand? Oh my will he ever enjoy being involved in the politics of this world. Sesshomaru will probably relieved that he can send the toad away when he's fed up with him every so often.

Speaking of him, he's getting pretty testy with me for being lazy. I should start his chapter and make him happy. It's not my fault I had to figure out a plot line first before going ahead!

Ah, well, there's always that type ... I guess some just get more enthusiastic about it. Every comment is in itself a compliment. ^__^ I have noticed there are little, seemingly innocuous details sprinkled throughout the story hinting to bigger things at a later point. It's immensely fun.

Wwwwwwwow. :o Will Inu and co really ever have any idea how big this is? Or would it be better if they weren't? Intriguing questions.

I'd say they've already been handsomely rewarded in some respects. ^__^

xD That's funny, that's just what I was thinking. =/ Jaken's a tad insecure. It makes him clingy. This'll teach him to be more independent, which will make him more confident, and thus a greater help to Sesshomaru.

Oh no. We don't want a cranky Taiyoukai eyeing up our authoress! You'd better get to work on that. *sigh* So demanding, these dogs ... I'm surprised he's pushed ahead in line, though, I thought he would've stepped aside for the birthday girl. :o

I've learned to deal with the lack of substance in the reviews I get from non-f-listers. I don't know if they don't know what to say or if they're just flyby reviewers saying the same thing on all the stories. Ah well, at least you know they at least OPENED the story.

There will come a time when they'll learn just how big it is. They do have that appointment at Ashaba for a reason, after all. I'd say around then they'll get an idea.

And yes, I'd say they've all been rewarded rather well. It'll only continue the more they do what they're supposed to do.

Jaken is rather insecure, isn't he? I think he feels that he's a nobody compared to Sesshomaru and has consoled himself by flattering our Demon Lord nearly to death. Giving him the chance to do something, on his own, will do him some good. Varana better be careful, however, because he might shift some of that focus from Sesshomaru to him. I suppose since the dear Emperor has managed to coax Jaken into problem solving on his own that he'll help build confidence in our toad demon.

Sesshomaru knew Rin's birthday isn't happening for a few more chapters. Beldin's pretty insistent on being there for it, after all. He also knows that there are some things that have to be done first---like get through the battle we left Kagome, Inuyasha, and the rest of camp in. The culprit behind our camp's attack is really sneaky and he's doing several things all at the same time to throw the camp folk off balance, not to mention the gang trying to get back from Mal Yaska. No, Sesshomaru cut in line in front of someone else----and he's still fuming. He barged in line in front of Koga, and the wolf is still not happy. Sesshomaru could truly care less, all things considered about his history with the wolf. Ah well. What can you do?

O.o I've never been able to do the fly-by thing on a story I really like. I mean, it's fine if you find a fic late into the story and you just leave them for the past chapters, but ... It's supposed to be a review. "Update soon" is . . . not a review. *shakes head* Does not compute.

Gosh, well ... I'd say that'll definitely change the mood of things! Yikes.

^___^ Sounds promising. *optimistic*

Hero worship does funny things to a psyche. ^^; And as a Japanese feudal retainer, it's his job to be inferior. XD But we ain't in Musashi anymore, Jaken!

=D Indeed. I reeeally like how their interaction is shaping up, by the way.

<=( I was worried as to how the rest of the crew had fared during that skirmish ... Guess we'll find out soon. I wasn't expecting Sesshomaru to be thrilled about that, though. Although I cannot wait to see his reaction to Inu and Kag's ordeal. I love when he takes on the "protective alpha" role sometimes, and he has already marked them as pack.

XD Ten points for the giggliest mental image in history. I've got the silliest urge to swat them both on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. xD

Me either. If I'm going to take the time to leave a review, I'm going to make it count. I'm going to say what I thought, what I felt, and ask questions. I figure it's only fair to give the type of review you want to receive. At this point, I've considered "update soon" a review from some people, but then I wonder why they're reading if they don't really "get" it.

Their visit to Ashaba will change several things in a big way, yes. Torak's old house has its own flavor and the Ashabine Oracles will have a very important message, even if it's not direct to anyone in our gang.

I don't think Jaken knows that he's left home, at least mentally and when it comes to social behavior. He'll learn, and maybe he'll stop acting like such a clown when he does.

I threw in his relationship with Varana because I thought it'd be unexpected and it worked better than I had even anticipated. Two unlikely characters becoming fast friends, it can only work.

Sesshomaru wants me to push things a long because he wants to get to a different part in the story. That, and he just feels he's more important than Koga.

I'm glad you enjoyed the image. I was geared to check in with Koga when Sesshomaru practically shoved him out of the way and demanded I go with him instead. Sigh.

If I'm going to take the time to leave a review, I'm going to make it count. I'm going to say what I thought, what I felt, and ask questions. I figure it's only fair to give the type of review you want to receive. *highfives ya* Precisely. That is my inherent code on reviewing, because of the enjoyment it will give the author. It's giving something back. I'd rather leave no review at all rather than "update soon".

Goodness. In that case, I'm willing to be patient, because it sounds like those chapters are going to be intense. The plot thickens, indeed.

Off-route question, but I was wondering if there'd be any sign of Kanna or Kagura any time soon? I don't know why, but the question just suddenly occurred to me. O.o

^__^ Good. I want for him to be able to make Sesshomaru proud. I mean, when you compare this to when he was commanded to stay behind. Let's give Jaken some dignity, I say.

It worked very well, I was left most intrigued. And what does Eriond know, that's what got me too. ^o^ I love a good mystery.

Let me guess. A different part of the story that has much to do with himself would it be? *pinches bridge of nose*

Heehee. Weeeell, there's not much you can do in light of a command like that. ^_~ Maybe Koga'll get a look-in afterwards, hopefully.

I never leave just an "update soon" review because it's a waste of time. I'm not really in the fandom to be important or famous or gather a bunch of groupies. I'm in it because I enjoy it and could care less about the shinnies and heaps of praise. Those that take the time to say more than a couple words are awesome for doing so.

Oh my yes. There will be a ton of things going on after our Mal Yaska party returns to the fold. Big things will be happening from there on out for the most part. How long the story will be? Not sure. Just enjoy it while it lasts, I say. And ya never know---sequels can and do happen.

You'll have to wait and see if Kagura and Kanna show up. After her embarrassment at Polgara's hands, Naraku's been probably skittish about sending her too close, preferring to use a different sort of spy than even the samiyosho. That doesn't mean he isn't going to deploy his incarnations elsewhere!

I chose to have Jaken stay behind initially just because I couldn't imagine having him bouncing around the Eddings world looking the way he does. In the end, that doesn't really matter so much and what he's ended up doing is better than if he had gone along if you ask me.

Oh it does involve Sesshomaru personally, but it's a part he's been angry about for so long to have him suddenly eager to reach it...wellllllll I have to wonder what's going through his head.

I might end up switching the two chapters in order around, yes. Koga does have his role to play, after all.

And it's usually where friends are made, too. I mean, some very good friends of mine are people who had some very intelligent and engaging things to say about my stories. Through the process of chatting back and forth on it, we all struck up a rapport and ended up friending each other on whichever SN sites we frequented ... And not one of those people hesitate to tell me if I need to improve on something. Who needs fanpoodles when you can have friends?

You are truly committed to this. I applaud you for that, it's a very hard thing for some people. Gosh ... the prospect of a sequel makes my eyes cross. XD That could be years away! Fair play to you, girl. That's dedication.

Oooh ... my, my, interesting ... But I look forward to the next time we encounter them. I adore Kanna, you place her into any situation and everything goes up in the air. I think she's one of the best and most dangerous characters in IY. I was sad that the Sess-gumi never had their brush with her, I would have loved to see Sesshomaru's reaction. But at least Rin got to keep her soul this way. xD

Yeah, that would've been a problem. xD I mean, in a similar vein, I'd wondered why you didn't just have Shippo conceal his fuzzier attributes by himself with his magic, but then it was a little ... weird for me to try and picture him that way.

Perhaps he wants to get it over with? xD

I do look forward to seeing the wolfling again. That's one of the things I truly love about this story, the variety of the POV - it's immensely engaging; it might be a good idea to switch, but whichever you go for is fine with me. I can never get enough of SessPOV. XD

I've found that to be true, too. The more they say, the more I can connect with them and we can have a discussion that can lead to more than just the story. I think that's what it's all about, really.

I enjoy what I do, and despite the "slowdown" the fandom will experience now that the series is over, I don't see myself stopping. Several other fandoms carry on for years despite the end of the original series. Besides to come this far and not finish and/or see a certain little girl finally grow up, how can I resist?

Hmmm. Kanna is a bit harder to maneuver in the Eddings realm. I haven't totally decided JUST what I'll do with her, but I do have plans for Kagura. The other incarnations probably won't be a factor simply because of the placing of the split in the series. Belgarath would be fascinated by her, but probably in no danger. Same for Garion and the other sorcerers. If anything, Kanna couldn't possibly use her mirror the weapon technique on the Sword of the Rivan King. The Orb would probably destroy her mirror first. We'll have to see how I figure it in, I suppose.

Quite frankly I don't think Shippo can conceal his tail and the like for that long. He might for a brief period, but not all the time. With his new instructor, he may be able to do just that in time, while being able to retain his tail and the like when it's not necessary for him to hide it.

No. Sesshomaru's got his reasons for wanting it sooner than later. It's that guilt again.

I do enjoy the POV. I think it's what keeps it from getting stale or trapped in a dead end. Each character has their own thing going on so if you're tired or bored with one character in the writing process you can switch. It also takes care of the wide sweeping setting problem. And yes, I can't get enough of Sess's POV or Rin's for that matter. Poor Koga will just have to wait.

I completely agree. Fandom should be Fundom (cheesy as that sounds XD) and nothing less. I don't like when favoritism and petty "highschool" politics creep into it; most folk turn to their fandom to escape from that sort of silliness.

Oh, I think it's clear you enjoy what you do. =D I'd call that a prerequisite for the undertaking of a yarn this vast. And the response to the story sure as hell declares the ongoing affection for IY across the web. I've never heard a negative word from anyone about it, to be honest.

A sequel, to be frank, would be all kinds of awesome, but I wouldn't put any expectations forth until it's established where the story will conclude/which characters might die/what twists might happen etc Do you have an established point of conclusion planned, or are you letting the story write itself?

She's a wildcard alright, that one. ^__^ It'll give you something to think about, at least. Good to know Kagura's taken care of, though.

*rubs chin* Interesting angle on it ... hmmm. I've always wondered about the extent of Shippo's magic, myself. I know it's all smoke and mirrors, for the most part, but I know he's got some strength in there. Have you thought about referencing Japanese folklore for Kitsune magic, it might come in useful ...

Oh, goodness. Poor thing. More familial issues, I expect, in that case.

YES to everything here. The trademark of each characters viewpoint stamped into each chapters is a joy that keeps it fresh. And it helps you find solidarity with each character involved, even if they're not your particular favorite (though personally I love them all). *laughing* Poor Koga indeed. But he'll get his moment in the spotlight eventually, I'm sure.

I had enough petty silliness in the X-File fandom back in the day to last a life time. There were more factions and groups splintered within the fandom and all of them wasted as much time as possible attacking every other group. Between the Mulderists and the Shippers and Next Geners, I've seen the ugliest side of fandom.

When I started this story, I thought it would be too obscure and unusual to get much traction with in the Inuyasha fandom. I never intended to become "somebody" in the fandom because I knew it could degenerate into a headache as the XF fandom had. I wanted to write what I wanted, read what I wanted, have polite discussions every so often with other fans, and pretty much be left alone otherwise. If there's people who dislike my work or my place in fandom, I haven't heard. It's a waste of time when I do my writing to escape mundane life and the anxiety of having a sick parent. I can control the world I write in. I can't control everything else.

I've got some plans in place for a sequel, which my beta reader is almost insistent upon me writing. We shall see if I make it that far. I am hoping to do so, yes. I do have a rough frame work in place for the endgame of this story that can/will if I choose set up a sequel. It's the details and the inroads that get us there that will determine the logical fall out of it.

I can see Kanna being more involved in spying and a last resort for Naraku in certain situations. Her powers may be considered "cheating" in some regard. It's another reason I never bothered to physically bring Kikyo in. Her mere existence breaks the Eddings rules and would be very difficult to bend without major canon consequences. As I'm more bound to Eddings canon than I am truly to Inuyasha canon, I tend to err on the side of caution on that one.

I have decided to look into some kitsune folklore, yes, but keep in mind that Sesshomaru is still a dog and will not know the finer details of it. I won't be doing the silly comedic element Rumiko employed, either. It worked in the canon to a point, it won't work in the Eddings universe.

More familial issues. You have NO idea. NO idea.

I've had people ask me about writing from the Eddings POV and I've declined to do so in this story because if people truly want their POVs they can read Eddings themselves. It is already there. I've largely thrown out the Malloreon, sequel to the Belgaraid, while retaining the Belgariad fully intact. It made sense as Torak had to be outta the picture or it'd never make any sense. And if you're curious, Torak would have crushed Naraku into spider bits in the first five minutes. A hanyou born of human greed and malevolence against a dark and mad God? Not a chance. I stay with the experience through the Inuyasha gang so those who haven't read Eddings see it as it unfolds through their eyes, as they learn. I'll probably keep it that way.

*shakes head* It's just ridiculous is all. And it makes me sad. Nobody needs drama llama, we're all just here to enjoy our pastime.

That's a huge part of what I mean. This isn't RL. It shouldn't be taken so seriously. It's a creative outlet, whatsoever method/shipping you prefer. It shouldn't be stifled with all this negativity.

Interesting. I like your outlook on that; it isn't set in stone but you acknowledge a possibility. Your beta sounds like a sharp girl. ^__^ I thank her for convincing you to go ahead with Rin's gift.

Ooh, that's a delicate situation there in that case. Perhaps it would be smartest to downplay her presence where possible. Yes, I had noticed Kikyo is a nonentity here, but I'd actually chalked it up to seeing no usefulness for her here. She'd be more intrinsic to the Quest for the Jewel, whereas Journey is a definite divergence from that. But yes, in a crossover, I think it's best to err more to the canon of the universe you're far more familiar with. It must be challenging to balance the handling of IY canon alongside that.

Oh, of course, I wouldn't expect Sesshomaru to have an intrinsic knowledge of Kitsune magic. What I meant was, I'm sure Shippo has his instincts in this, you know? And the folklore referencing could simply be a source of inspiration. Yes, I had noticed a distinct lack of slapstick. ^__^ I rather like it.

Oh no ... and there I was thinking they were finding some stable ground with eachother. *sigh* Oh well. Two decidedly alpha males, with that sort of history between them to add to the mix? There's bound to be strife.

It's odd for me to think of reading from the Eddings POV. This is presented as an IY crossover, in that it centers more [not entirely though] on the characters of InuYasha in a foreign world, caught up in a foreign war/prophecy tale. To be able to empathize properly with them, it's necessary to read from the POV of characters who are completely unfamiliar with this world, as opposed to the natives. And there are many ways of getting the native's POV across through this as well.

No. We certainly don't need silly drama in the fun zone.

My beta will appreciate the thanks. I know she really really wants the sequel.

It can be, but it's more of knowing both universe's rules. I know Eddings frontwards and backwards having read the series from the top more times than I can count. There are certain Inuyasha things I can bring in and twist to fit the world. Kikyo just doesn't fit and I have no real use for her in the story other than that brief angst between Inuyasha and Kagome when she was brought up. I don't hate Kikyo, I just know the Eddings rules wouldn't allow for her to exist without possibly creating chaos just being in the world.

I would have to say, underneath the brat and the laziness, Shippo does have his instincts, but he has to dig into them to find them. Sesshomaru's promised to teach him how to rely on his inner strength and have true power because of it. In those lessons, he will probably discover those instincts and be able to discuss them with his new sensei. In time, I wouldn't be surprised to see him use kistune magic quite proficiently.

Oh, you'll have to see what type of familial strife they end up enduring. It's brought on by a few things and, given their history, it may never be 100% resolved. With each layer they deal with, though, I think they're only brought closer together as family.

I find that it would be too chaotic and would give too much away if I included the Eddings POV in the mix. They're holding information back, with good reason, and if we saw it through their POV we'd lose some of that suspense. I also think that since the books are already out there, you can pick those up if you're that curious to see their POV. I love reading Belgarath and Polgara's stories, direct in first person from the moment they're born until Garion's brought into the mix. You can see and learn so much in those two books alone, not to mention the Belgariad/Malloreon themselves. It's just better to go with the IY cast in Journey so that those who haven't read the Eddings series learn and grow in this world as they do. And I"m glad you mentioned I got the Eddings POV across as well, because all of those characters have their distinct personalities and dislikes/likes.

I noticed that too. But THANK GOD Anime Spiral isn't the only place you posted Journey.

I wouldn't have posted it at a single archive, anyways.

I like to see what people think, so posting it at more sites gets more response.

Most Anime Spiral comments ran the lines of "yay clap clap rite more plz!" So yeah, not missing it that much.

There is a problem with one of the chapters in Journey: Kouga and Sesshomaru have met before and Sesshomaru knows he killed Rin but didn't kill him. When Jaken asked why, Sesshomaru said that if he tried to hurt Rin THEN he would kill him.

Also does Sesshomaru refer to himself in third-person in the manga because I've never seen him do that in the anime.

Technically, Sesshomaru and Koga never met in the manga. Ever. That's an anime interlude thrown in basically for filler. I decided to take the manga angle on the situation. The only reason he knew what Koga looked like remotely before he showed up in Journey is due to Rin's nightmares. His status as Rin's murderer emerged after Rin's reaction. But no, they've never truly met in the manga and that's how I chose to write it.

And yes, Sesshomaru DOES talk in third person, as does Rin, in the manga. Naraku does as well, but usually as an ironic or mocking manner. I've kind of taken what I liked and thought fit the story and used it and rejected other things. As there are two canon lines within Inuyasha as it is, you can certainly pick and choose.

As for the Eddings canon, I've kept the Belgariad in its entirety, but I've fudged almost all of the Malloreon, lifting and changing significant events to fit the mood and flow of my story. MOST of the Malloreon never happened in Journey.

Okay it's just that he didn't do that until about half way through the story.

There's a reason for that. I started with the anime and when I picked up the manga I found I liked that feature better and have used it in the story. It's just one of those things, I think.

I'm also writing a Inuyasha crossover (kinda) with a VERY old story cald the Kalevala.

I have an idea to make journey better: Add Spawn! It would be awsome.

Two canon story lines are quite enough. I think I'll have to pass.

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